‘Lammy Must Ditch Plan To Scrap Jury Trials Or Face Embarrassing Defeat’, Warns Senior Labour MP

David Lammy’s forced announcement last week after the apparent accidental leak of his plans to scrap some jury trials came as a shock to Labour backbenchers.

There was reference in our election manifesto to addressing the Crown Court backlog which grew exponentially under the previous government, but there was never any suggestion that we, the Labour Party, would ever consider doing away with the rights of those accused of serious crimes to be tried by a jury of 12 good men, women and true.

Not least when current justice ministers, including the Lord Chancellor, have made very public statements pleading the case for juries in criminal proceedings, to be maintained. After all, juries have existed in the English (and Welsh) legal system for over 800 years.

Threatening to restrict jury trials is both a dereliction of duty and an ineffective way of dealing with a crippling backlog of cases. The erosion of jury trials not only risks undermining a fundamental right, but importantly, will not reduce the backlog by anything like enough to speed up justice for victims and those that are accused and prosecuted by the Crown.

If this ever comes to the House of Commons, I will rebel and vote against it, and I think the government would be defeated on this issue. The House and the public will not stand for the erosion of a fundamental right, particularly given that there are more effective ways to reduce the backlog.

Sir Brian Leveson is a well-respected figure whose words carry much weight but even Sir Brian is not wedded to this idea. But the outcry from stakeholders in the criminal justice system must not be ignored.

Our system rightly prevents the judiciary from speaking out on such matters, but when you have the Bar Council and the Criminal Bar Association united in their opposition to these destructive plans, then it is easy to work out what judges and recently-retired judges are saying to lawyers when they are speaking privately.

Karl Turner MP
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These warnings need to be heard and acted upon before it is too late. Let’s be honest now, the problem (which is massive) was not caused by juries and it will not be solved by their removal. If this is not ditched, then the government risks another embarrassing defeat.

Labour MPs deserve better from the prime minister to have us marched up the proverbial hill to be marched back down again and then have us pretend that we were never asked to do the unthinkable in the first place. Parliamentarians from across the political divide recognise the constitutional importance of trial by jury and the danger of their erosion from public life.

Backbench MPs see this as a step too far, and no responsible parliament can allow a cornerstone of justice and our democracy to be savagely attacked on the basis that the government is actually doing something to fix the problem when in fact anybody that is anybody, practitioners, academics or the judiciary itself know full well that these plans will not do what it says on the tin and will most definitely not protect and promote the interests of victims of crime.

“If this is not ditched, then the government risks another embarrassing defeat.”

The Lord Chancellor would be better promising less and doing more. There is much to do. The government chief whip is a good and well-respected MP, but he isn’t Paul Daniels – the chief whip’s best magic trickery cannot magic the inevitable rebellion away.

One of the primary causes of the backlog is the restriction on ‘sitting days’, the number of days Crown Courts operate a year. Around 130,000 sitting days are available to the courts, but, despite a capacity crisis, sitting days are restricted by around 20,000 a year.

While the government has rightly announced that it is increasing the number of sitting days by 5000, this is still a substantial shortfall. This inexplicable misuse of court time needs to be rectified.

The parliamentary timetable for these wrongheaded proposals is most likely to be the second half of next year, perhaps October or November. If the emergency is now, then why isn’t the justice secretary arguing for time on the floor of the House now?

Why, if it is so very urgent and just about reducing the backlog, won’t David Lammy put in a sunset clause on the face of the bill so that this policy can be scrapped once the backlog is down to a manageable number? At which time he himself would revert to saying that “criminal trials without juries are a bad idea, you don’t fix the backlog with trials that are widely perceived as unfair”.

And why not start using the promised £550 million for victims support service immediately? The government doesn’t need primary legislation for that. There isn’t a backlog in every court centre. Certain courts have managed to delete any backlog to manageable numbers by proactive case management. Let’s look at the model before we throw out the baby with the bath water. The government should reconsider this now, before lasting damage is done to public confidence in our courts, the justice system and this government.

Karl Turner is the Labour MP for Kingston-upon-Hull East

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Labour MP Fumes Over Party’s Lack Of Communication And Authority Among Backbenchers

A Labour backbencher has attacked the lack of clear communication within his party in a surprise intervention exposing the level of discontent among the backbenchers.

Karl Turner called out deputy PM and justice secretary David Lammy on Wednesday after he announced his decision to axe some jury trials, claiming the government had got it “incredibly badly wrong”.

Speaking to Times Radio on Sunday, the MP for Kingston upon Hull East explained he would not have spoken out against such a senior minister in the past – but he was left with little alternative this week.

His remarks come amid growing frustration over the flip-flopping of the government as they U-turn over major policies – like the two-child benefit cap – which their backbenches don’t like.

Responding to concerns about Keir Starmer’s control over his own party, Turner said: “I’ve got no axe to grind. But we’re in a situation whereby it appears as if the government is governing by consent of the PLP [Parliamentary Labour Party].

“The Tories did that for a bit – it didn’t get them very far.”

He said the chief whip Jonathan Reynolds “ought to be on the pitch scoring goals” because he is an “incredibly respected” politician.

“He ought not to be in the chief whip’s office where he can’t come out on the telly or Times Radio and do the stuff we need to do as a government,” the MP said.

“The former chief whip – I wouldn’t have been out publicly a week ago if the former chief whip Alan Campbell was in charge of the chief whip’s office, because he would have rang me and would have said, ‘I need to talk to you, Turner.’”

He suggested they would have come up with a more constructive plan together, and Campbell – who was removed as chief whip in the September reshuffle – would have facilitated meetings with the prime minister if necessary to resolve the issue.

In exchange, Turner said he would have kept quiet about his frustrations.

He said it would be a case of only speaking about your discontent in the party if there was “no alternative”.

But in this case, he claimed there was little clear communication. He told Times Radio: “All I’ve had is an attempt by me to speak to the chief whip, which I got an appointment to see him I think two days later.

“And then a text from a whip telling me to please calm down, or words to that effect. Don’t tell me to calm it down, I’ve been in there 15 years. It’s rare for me, in fact it’s incredibly unlikely and unusual.”

He said he would never usually “gob off” unless he needed to, adding: “Campbell would have sorted this. I’m afraid to say this but Johnny Reynolds isn’t capable of sorting this – and I like the man a lot, by the way.”

Starmer is facing intense scrutiny right now over the lack of control and discipline he has over his own MPs.

He suspended one MP, Markus Campbell-Savours, only this week after he voted against an initial vote on the government’s plans to tax inherited farmland.

Questions around just how long he has left in office continue to rise too, as pundits speculate which of his senior allies in the cabinet could be looking to replace Starmer in No.10.

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“It appears as if the government is governing by consent of the PLP.”

The government is in a “dangerous” position as it lacks authority over its own party, and the chief whip is not managing the situation effectively, says Labour MP Karl Turner. @adamboultonTABB | #TimesRadio pic.twitter.com/eBFVET7b7r

— Times Radio (@TimesRadio) December 7, 2025

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